
Article 19 is a podcast rooted in the firm belief that access to information is a human right. Here we offer conversations and interviews for increasing awareness, empathy, and expertise around digital inclusivity. A little nerdy, and a little techy, we hope listeners end up more informed too. We will also address why the oxford comma is awesome, and always more accessible.
Episodes

Sep 3, 2024
Sep 3, 2024
50 min
AI has the potential to bring people who are blind or who have low vision closer and closer to the visual world.
Joined by Vice-Chair of Be My Eyes, Bryan Bashin, and Tamman document accessibility specialist, Liza Grant, we explore the differences of alt text written by a trained human and AI and what the future of AI looks like for blind and low-vision individuals.
Learn more about supporting people with disabilities in Tamman’s Learn Center and stay connected with us on LinkedIn.
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Show Notes
- Be My Eyes: An app using live video to connect blind and low-vision users who want sighted assistance
- Necklace Pendant Image: Photo of the discussed astrology necklace
- FDR Monument Image: Photo of the discussed FDR Monument discussed
- All About Alt Text: An Article 19 episode welcoming Tamman accessibility champions to discuss all things alt text
- Spotlight: Be My Eyes: This episode of Article 19 highlights what Be My Eyes is, how it works, and the impact of the organization

Aug 7, 2024
Aug 7, 2024
35 min
Accommodations are a responsibility that an employee and employer share.
Continuing the conversation with our 6 guests from Part 1, we further explore the impact of accommodations and inclusive practices for both employees and organizations and the true cost of providing (or not providing) accommodations.
This episode is part 2 of a 2-part podcast, listen to the first episode here.
Continue learning about supporting people with disabilities in Tamman's Learn Center. Stay in touch with us on LinkedIn.
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Meet our guests:
- Charlotte McGhee works in client services and lives with two invisible disabilities, ulcerative colitis and POTS
- Daniel Hawkins is QA specialist and a deafblind individual with experience in braille, protactile, and ASL.
- Leah Mattern is a digital accessibility engineer, a staunch disability advocate, and lives with a genetic condition called rod monochromatism which renders her legally blind
- Liza Grant is a document accessibility specialist, a team lead, and a strong accessibility advocate.
- Marty Molloy is the president of Tamman and an accessibility advocate.
- Theresa Tuccillo is the administrative manager at Tamman and an accessibility advocate.
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Resources:
- Haben Girma: The first Deafblind person to graduate from Harvard Law School, Haben Girma is a human rights lawyer advancing disability justice.
- Sierra-Tamman 360-Degrees of Inclusion: A collaboration aimed at supporting your company in reaching your inclusive employment, professional development, and digital information goals.
- Supporting Employees with Accommodations: The Sierra Group provides insight into inclusive hiring practices.
- I just want to work: Article 19 host, Kristen Witucki shares her real-life experiences and offers perspective for people with disabilities who are looking for jobs.
- Moving Through Guilt about Biases: This blog explores clear steps to take mindful action to foster inclusive hiring practices and create systemic change.
- Creating a More Inclusive Hiring Practice: Offering a guide to employers to support them in creating a more inclusive hiring practice.

Aug 7, 2024
Aug 7, 2024
39 min
Workplace accommodations are a topic that drives fear and uncertainty for both employees and employers.
Featuring personal anecdotes and professional insights, this documentary-style episode shares 6 unique perspectives that uncover the challenges of navigating the job market and the workplace for people with disabilities, the emotions around asking for accommodations, and the experience of hiring and supporting people with disabilities.
This episode is part 1 of a 2-part podcast keep listening here.
Continue learning about supporting people with disabilities in Tamman's Learn Center. Stay in touch with us on LinkedIn.
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Meet our guests:
- Charlotte McGhee works in client services and lives with two invisible disabilities, ulcerative colitis and POTS
- Daniel Hawkins is QA specialist and a deafblind individual with experience in braille, protactile, and ASL.
- Leah Mattern is a digital accessibility engineer, a staunch disability advocate, and lives with a genetic condition called rod monochromatism which renders her legally blind
- Liza Grant is a document accessibility specialist, a team lead, and a strong accessibility advocate.
- Marty Molloy is the president of Tamman and an accessibility advocate.
- Theresa Tuccillo is the administrative manager at Tamman and an accessibility advocate.
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Resources:
- Haben Girma: The first Deafblind person to graduate from Harvard Law School, Haben Girma is a human rights lawyer advancing disability justice.
- Sierra-Tamman 360-Degrees of Inclusion: A collaboration aimed at supporting your company in reaching your inclusive employment, professional development, and digital information goals.
- Supporting Employees with Accommodations: The Sierra Group provides insight into inclusive hiring practices.
- I just want to work: Article 19 host, Kristen Witucki shares her real-life experiences and offers perspective for people with disabilities who are looking for jobs.
- Moving Through Guilt about Biases: This blog explores clear steps to take mindful action to foster inclusive hiring practices and create systemic change.
- Creating a More Inclusive Hiring Practice: Offering a guide to employers to support them in creating a more inclusive hiring practice.

Jun 26, 2024
Jun 26, 2024
39 min
Join members of Tamman's marketing team as we explore how we manage digital accessibility as marketers, designers, content creators, and communicators. We focus on the machinations and the nuance that goes into crafting our external image as a company as an organization that deeply, deeply cares about digital accessibility.
This episode is part of a three-part series focused on marketing and design with accessibility in mind. Check out the other episodes:
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Jun 26, 2024
Jun 26, 2024
37 min
Joined by Tamman designers, Tom Hall and Sam Waterman, we explore the intersection of art and accessibility! Diving deep into Tamman’s approach and how our team meets accessibility guidelines in both, professional designs and their personal projects.
This episode is part of a 3 part series focused on marketing and design with accessibility in mind. Check out the other episodes:

Jun 26, 2024
Jun 26, 2024
47 min
Joined by Dr. Damien LaRock we explore the nuances and accessibility of modern communication, specifically emojis and gifs. Diving into the intended use of these icons and images, the different uses of the same icon, and how a screen reader notices them.
This episode is part of a three-part series focused on marketing and design with accessibility in mind. Check out the other episodes:
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Jun 7, 2024
Jun 7, 2024
38 min
Tamman's Article 19 podcast speaks with author of “There Plant Eyes”, Dr. M Leona Godin.
Host Kristen Witucki, chats with Leona about the personal and cultural history of blindness and they discuss her book "There Plant Eyes". This book delves into scientific, historical, religious, and cultural phenomena that have led to the ocularcentrism of our world. “There Plant Eyes" was the subject of one of our internal book talks which we also shared here on the podcast and led to our episode on Echolocation.
Dr. M. Leona Godin is a writer, performer, speaker, and editor with a PhD from NYU in Early Modern Literature. Her nonfiction debut is There Plant Eyes: A Personal and Cultural History of Blindness (Pantheon Books, 2021), which The New Yorker called a “thought-provoking mixture of criticism, memoir, and advocacy.” In addition to her extensive and impressive creative pursuits, she has spent many years teaching literature and humanities courses at NYU, and she has given lectures on art, accessibility, technology, and disability!

Jun 4, 2024
Jun 4, 2024
36 min
The Tamman team talks about the book, “There Plant Eyes: A Personal and Cultural History of Blindness,” by Dr. M Leona Godin. This book delves into scientific, historical, religious, and cultural phenomena, that have led to the ocularcentrism of our world, a term that Leona Godin coined to mean a visual perception and way of thinking whose impact people who are blind or low vision still feel today.
Host Kristen Witucki and other members of the Tamman team chat about the many different topics discussed in this book including echolocation, which led to us further exploring echocolation in this episode of Article 19!

May 8, 2024
May 8, 2024
26 min
Tamman's Article 19 podcast speaks with long-time accessibility strategist and stroke survivor, Robert Jolly.
Host Kristen Witucki chats with Robert about how his career started, what led to his stroke, and why he returned to the cause of accessibility with even more conviction after his stroke.

Mar 29, 2024
Mar 29, 2024
57 min
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"Our only limits are the ones we think we have." - Daniel Kish
Tamman's Article 19 podcast speaks with accessibility icons Daniel Kish, the President for the World Access for the Blind and Derrick Twene, a Consultant, Coach, mobility trainer, and motivational speaker who retrained himself to navigate the world after losing his sight as an adult.
Daniel Kish is the lead founder and President of World Access for the Blind. This 501(c)(3) non-profit organization uniquely combines a self directed, no limits approach with expertise in perceptual development, positive psychology, person-centered instruction, and public education to develop and mobilize innovative. Daniel holds Master's degrees in both Developmental Psychology and Special Education. He also holds two national certifications in Orientation and Mobility, COMS and NOMC. Daniel is the first totally blind individual to obtain both certifications. He has maintained employment in this capacity since 1996 as an itinerant instructor for many school districts, rehabilitation agencies, and private persons throughout the world. He believes in a strong interdisciplinary education model, making a point to work in close collaboration with all professionals and other supports in relation to each student. Daniel has worked with nearly 1000 blind students of all ages and backgrounds, and from many cultures, as well as tens of thousands of professionals and members of the blindness community.
Derrick Twene is a charismatic, highly skilled business leader with extensive commercial experience within the chemical industry. He determined that his loss of eyesight in 2018 would not prevent him from leading an independent life, and has retrained himself to continue his professional career. He now shares his journey and insights with the visually challenged of all ages as a trainer, coach and motivational speaker. Derrick's aim is to inspire & encourage people to overcome adversity by developing and channeling their skills in order to reach their full potential.
Article 19 is created by Tamman Inc., hosted by Kristen Witucki, and is produced by Markus Goldman and Harper Yatvin.
